Debunking Wicca Debunkers

Debunking_Wicca_Debunkers1. Dubunk attempt # 1 Most Wiccans, who are knowledgeable recognize the age and the background of their religion. Gardner's studies have been well documented. Although he claimed to have been initiated into a centuries old coven, this cannot be proven. What we can prove is that he collaborated and borrowed heavily from Aleister Crowley and Helena Blavatsky of Thelema and Theosophy respectively as well as ancient practices of the Saxons, Germans, Norse, Celts, Greeks and Romans. Other notable sources would be Robert Graves and Charles Leland as well as Margaret Murray. Well as Margaret Murray's research has not stood the lest of time, Leland, while not perfect in his recantations, has managed to get many things right. This is why reputable Witchschools such as Witchschool.com use Leland's writings to this day. So John Parker's book is called At The Heart of Darkness: Witchcraft, Black Magic and Satanism Today. Not exactly an unbiased account of Witchcraft, huh. So let's stick to non biased sources shall we. 2. Debunk Attempt #2 Any Witchcraft that claims to be older than 1950 is highly suspect. Three words for you. Stregha, Voodoo, and Paupa, New Guinea. Try pre Christian. All three traditions are virtuially unchanged through time and can be traced hundreds if not thousands of years. Stregheria, for example is one of the oldest surviving forms of European Witchcraft and can be traced prior to the Christian infestation of Italy. The Etruscan civilization, whose Gods are well documented and bear close resmeblance to the Roman Gods, is the basis of the Stregheria religion. http://books.google.com/books?id=RvK3vJbBaGEC&dq=aradia&pg= PP1&ots=C5F5-YQn5W&sig=JL6xSZbPDauGm1eaTU0Qvv59tvg&hl =en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=aradia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 &rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=titl e&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail The very idea that there is no Witchcraft tradition that is older than 50 years is absolutely silly in the fact that Leland wrote Aradia or Gospel of the Witches in 1899. Umm I'm not very good at math, but hey, I think that adds up to more than 50. But then, hey we're talking about a Christian that thinks 4.5 billion equals 6000. Not very good at math, or science for that matter. 3. Debunk attempt #3 Wiccans don't acknoweldge the Devil and or Satan. And we use deceptive schemes and word games to cover up our involvement with the devil. Lucifer=Light Bearer this is simply etymology. Lucifer's presence in the Bible only happens once, because it was an error, There are subsequent versions of the Bible that don't mention Lucifer at all and instead replace Lucifer with the Morning Star, Christians can understand this. Just to prove my point here's a website from a church with that very information. http://www.gospelcenterchurch.org/the_bible.html Jules Michelet Satanism and Witchcraft. Okay, first of all, you are quoting someone who was a sympathizer with the Catholic Church, secondly, his work has been largely debunked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism_and_Witchcraft Mastering Witchcraft, a Practical Guide to Witches, Warlocks and Covens Paul Huson, making a grave error in the title of his book obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Also, I don't see how this is a Wiccan book. http://books.google.com/books?id=PAJGAAAACAAJ&dq=Mastering +Witchcraft,+a+Practical+Guide+to+Witches+Paul&ei=vRNyR-G1FZa siwGlgK1g 4. Debunk attempt #4 Upside down pentagrams used as Second Degree Initiations. The Horned God, is older than the idea of Satan. Christians made their devil look like the horned one in order to try and convert European Pagans. When that didn't work, they used force.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-12-26T11:24:21.307Z

Tags: Wicca | Pagan | Christian | Satanism | Witchcraft | evidence | Pentacle |

Walking a Stronger Wiccan Path

Walking_a_Stronger_Wiccan_PathA reply to Piper41 about spiritual ruts and being strong in your path.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-12-16T21:20:04.15Z

Tags: Christianity | Skepticism | Knowledge |

Defending Wicca

Defending_WiccaDefense of Wicca against common Christian and Atheist arguments.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-11-26T03:28:00.37Z

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PaganPlanet

PaganPlanetStickam.com Email me for the password.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-08-17T19:18:57.943Z

Tags: God | Goddess | Polytheist | Pantheist | Druid | Asatru | Hellenist | Hermetic | Thelema | Shamanism | Native | American | Voodoo | Santeria | Heathen | Wise | One | Discordian | Chaos | Eclectic |

Lammas and Pagan Activism

Lammas_and_Pagan_Activismhttp://afc.aidschicago.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&pid=503&srcid=510&frsid=2497

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-08-03T04:43:50.49Z

Tags: AIDS | Charity | Help | Activism | Religion | Chicago | Lammas | Harvest | |

Dried Up ***** thinks she wants a Witch War

Dried_Up_*****_thinks_she_wants_a_Witch_WarSo there's this chick on You Tube called blueangelarts that is attacking me unprovoked. Well I just gave her a reason.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-07-03T23:24:09.517Z

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Principles of Wicca Part 12

Principles_of_Wicca_Part_12We do not accept the concept of "absolute evil," nor do we worship any entity known as "Satan" or "the Devil" as defined by Christian Tradition. We do not seek power through the suffering of others, nor do we accept the concept that personal benefits can only be derived by denial to another

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-06-21T01:50:24.133Z

Tags: Wicca. | Principles | Devil |

Constantine and Ecumenical Councils

Constantine_and_Ecumenical_CouncilsThis is my take on Constantine. Most of my info came from http://www.catholicism.org/ecumenical-councils.html#First http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-06-09T06:47:49.85Z

Tags: Constantine | Catholicism | Infallible | Bible | Fundamentalist | Bigotry | Roman | Empire | Council | of | Nicea | Ecumenical |

Principles of Wiccan Belief Part 10

Principles_of_Wiccan_Belief_Part_10Our only animosity towards Christianity, or toward any other religion or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have claimed to be "the only way," and have sought to deny freedom to others and to suppress other ways of religious practice and belief.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-06-01T09:44:00.15Z

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Beltane

BeltaneBealtane. My take on it.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-05-01T17:26:43.153Z

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Witchschool for Sale on Ebay

Witchschool_for_Sale_on_Ebayhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250102654667&c It's been brought to my attention that I mispronounced Hoopeston. Sorry.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-04-14T20:12:21.78Z

Tags: Witchschool | Internet | Website | Don | Lewis | Ed | Hubbard | Correllian | Nativist | Tradition | Sale | Ebay | Discrimination | Oppression | Violation | Hoopeston. |

Principles of Wiccan Belief Part 9

Principles_of_Wiccan_Belief_Part_9The meaning of life, and other stuff

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-17T10:39:21.187Z

Tags: Life | Evolution | Higher | Self |

Coming Out Stories

Coming_Out_StoriesPost video responses about how you "Came Out" to your family and friends. Whether you changed your religion, or told them you were Gay. Two very provocative topics.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-17T10:35:02.64Z

Tags: Jewish | Hindu | Buddhist | Muslim | Satanist |

My Dream

My_DreamThis is a real dream I had. I just wanted to share it with everyone.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-08T21:40:14.937Z

Tags: Dreams | Psychic | Paranormal. | Future | Predicting | Iowa | Job | Interview |

Faith Based Initiatives and other stuff

Faith_Based_Initiatives_and_other_stuffMy comment on the Bush Administration's Faith Based Initiative and other constitutional infractions.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-08T01:50:38.467Z

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Principles of Belief Part 8

Principles_of_Belief_Part_8Pricniples of Wiccan Belief Part 8

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-03T06:27:35.793Z

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Ex Wiccca Ex Gay Christian Propaganda

Ex_Wiccca_Ex_Gay_Christian_PropagandaThis is a discussion about Ex Gay and Ex Wiccan propaganda spread by the Christian Church. Specifically the Evangelicals and other groups of Neo Con Christians. I've researched it.

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-03-02T20:59:34.983Z

Tags: jesus-is-lord.com | Gay | Ted | Haggard | Fear | Loathing | Accusations | religioustolerance |

Principles of Wiccan Belief part 7

Principles_of_Wiccan_Belief_part_7This is the seventh installment of the principles of Wiccan belief.

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Principles of Wiccan Belief Part 4

Principles_of_Wiccan_Belief_Part_4Part 4 of the Principles of Wiccan Belief

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-02-07T00:43:40.42Z

Tags: Polarity | Straight | Spirituality | Masculine |

Principles of Wiccan Belief Part 6

Principles_of_Wiccan_Belief_Part_6The Sixth Part of the Pricniples of Wiccan Belief

Rating:    User: bluefirewitch   2007-02-06T18:45:01.997Z

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